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== Trading ==
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{{Rwbox
This table contains all items that can be produced by the player that require wood and can be sold to traders. Note: it is not complete.
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{| {{STDT|sortable c_25 align-center}}
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| image = [[File:RoyaltyIcon.png|40px]]
! Item
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| text = This user is a credit to the wiki, and has '''define'''-itely gone above and beyond!<br/><small>I can't reward you for all your work on infobox main and the massive slog that was changing over all the half-functioning define templates but I wanted to say that while the average reader might not realize the extent it helps now and will help in the future, we do and its massively appreciated. You're a goddamn legend. - [[User:Harakoni|Harakoni (Wiki Moderator)]] ([[User talk:Harakoni|talk]]) 12:57, 20 April 2022 (UTC)</small>
! Amount of wood !! Other materials !! [[Work To Make|Work]] !! [[Skills|Work type]] !! [[Market Value]] !! [[Sell Price Multiplier]]
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}}
! Work per Value !! Material per Value
 
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! Wood
 
| 1{{icon|wood}} || - || 0 || - || 1.2{{icon|silver}} || 1 || 0 || 0.83
 
|-
 
<!-- Sculptures -->
 
  
<!-- Furniture -->
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== Templates I created ==
! [[Dining chair]]
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=== Table templates ===
| {{Q|Dining chair|Resource 1 Amount||{{icon|wood}}}} || - || {{ticks/minutes|{{Q|Dining chair|Work To Make}}*{{Q|Wood|Work To Build Factor}}}} || [[construction]] || {{Market Value Calculator|Dining chair|Wood}}{{icon|silver}} || 0.7
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* [[Template:Trading Value Table]] and [[Template:Trading Value Table Row]]
| {{#expr:{{formatnum:{{Q|Dining chair|Work To Make}}|R}}*{{Q|Wood|Work To Build Factor}}/(0.7*{{Market Value Calculator|Dining chair|Wood}})round2}} || {{#expr:{{Q|Dining chair|Resource 1 Amount}}/(0.7*{{Market Value Calculator|Dining chair|Wood}})round2}}
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* [[Template:Melee Weapons Table]] and [[Template:Melee Weapons Table Row]]
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* [[Template:Floor Table Row]]
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* [[Template:Furniture Table Row]]
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* [[Template:Apparel Table]] and [[Template:Apparel Table Row]]
<sup>Assuming Normal quality, for the effect of other qualities, see [[Quality]].</sup>
 
  
== Template ==
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=== Formatting templates ===
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* [[Template:%]]
! {{{1|Cloth}}}
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* [[Template:Plural]]
<noinclude>
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* [[Template:Version to date]]
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* [[Template:Align Ticks]]
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* [[Template:Align Silver]]
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* [[Template:AP]] (armor piercing)
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* [[Template:CS]] (cells per second)
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* [[Template:DPS]] (damage per second)
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* [[Template:MTB]] (mean time between)
  
{{documentation}}
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=== Other ===
{| {{STDT|sortable c_25 align-center}}
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* [[Template:DLC Icons]]
! Item
 
! Amount of wood !! Other materials !! [[Work To Make|Work]] !! [[Skills|Work type]] !! [[Market Value]] !! [[Sell Price Multiplier]]
 
! Work per Value !! Material per Value
 
|-
 
! Wood
 
| 1{{icon|wood}} || - || 0 || - || 1.2{{icon|silver}} || 1 || 0 || 0.83
 
|-
 
<!-- Sculptures -->
 
{{Trading Table Value Table Row|Dining chair}}
 
|}
 
<sup>Assuming Normal quality, for the effect of other qualities, see [[Quality]].</sup>
 
  
</noinclude>
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=== Maintenance ===
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* [[Template:Copyright check]]
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* [[Template:File category check]]
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* [[Template:Page category check]]
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== Maintenance ==
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Maintenance lists]]
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/common.css]]
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== Trading calculations ==
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The following pages provide an overview of the most profitable ways of selling a certain type of material:
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Trading Overview]] (Work in progress)
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Leathery]]
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Fabric]]
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Wood]]
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Metallic]] (Work in progress)
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* Stony
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'''To Do:'''
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* Check if profitability border really doesn't depend on material value.
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* Consider the 60% selling and 140% buying multipliers? ''--> No. [[Trade Price Improvement]] including the standard 60% selling and 140% buying multipliers don't change the relative profitability.''
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* Excel probably rounds 2.5 up. [[Market value]] states, that it should be rounded down.
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* Example calculations
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* Overview tables
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== Test Pages ==
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Steel]]
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* [[User:Ickputzdirwech/Component]]
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== Notes ==
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=== To-Do ===
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* Trading value table
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** Should silver/work and silver/material columns include the general selling multiplier of 0.6? ''--> No, it's only supposed to show relative profitability''
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** Improve the comprehensibility of the table.
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** Delete the test pages.
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* Change structure of [[Materials]].
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** Replace [[Property:Type]] "Textile" with "Material".
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** Replace Lumber etc. with Woody etc. in [[Property:Type2]].
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** Merge [[Materials]] with [[Stuff]]. ''--> Doesn't work because of icon.''
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** Update [[Stone blocks]].
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** Beautify the tables on [[Materials]], [[Stone]], [[Metals]], [[Fabric]] and [[Leathers]].
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** Automate table [[Weapons#Material / Quality modifiers]].
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* Check if [[Template:Building Stats Table]] is used on all relevant pages.
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** Remove column mass?
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** Add column work/value?
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* Check out [[Template:Weapon Material Table]]
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=== Ideas ===
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* Create a table for level 20 skill to calculate the profit for trading.
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=== Properties that would be helpful if they were defined on each page ===
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* Sell price multiplier / none if not sellable
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* [[Property:Skill_1]] and [[Property:Skill_2]] (some pages have this already)
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=== Issues I stumbled upon and couldn't solve ===
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* mw-collapsible in combination with a caption seems to remove the colour from the top row of a table
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== Another message from Harakoni ==
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Sorry to intrude, another one on your user page because you can't see code on your talk page. (You can feel free to delete the above one btw)
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Wait so after all the production to fix [[tool cabinet]] to this
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{{#ask:[[Facility::Tool cabinet]][[Category:Production]]|format=ul|class=ul-column-width-150}}
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We could have just done this?
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<div style="column-count:6; width:1000px;">
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{{#ask:[[Facility::Tool cabinet]][[Category:Production]]|format=ul}}
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</div>
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That is kinda frustrating - [[User:Harakoni|Harakoni (Wiki Moderator)]] ([[User talk:Harakoni|talk]]) 12:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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: @[[User:Harakoni]], I just noticed: the second solution doesn't set the number of columns automatically depending on how many fit on the screen. --[[User:Ickputzdirwech|Ickputzdirwech]] ([[User talk:Ickputzdirwech|talk]]) 00:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
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Another really nice way to make automated lists:
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<pre>
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<ul><li>{{#ask: [[Name::~*spot]]
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| format = template
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| template = DLC Icons
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| link = none
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| sep = </li><li>
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}}</li></ul>
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</pre>
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== Plant choice ==
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=== Hydroponics basin ===
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Since they have a unique use [[cotton plant]], [[healroot]], [[smokeleaf plant]] and [[tinctoria]] are all excellent choices for hydroponics basins. The same is true for [[hop plant]], [[psychoid plant]], [[fibercorn]] {{IdeologyIcon}} and [[toxipotato plant]],{{BiotechIcon}} their [[Property:Fertility Sensitivity|fertility sensitivity]] of 70% to 0% respectively means the advantage of growing them in hydroponics basins compared to less fertile soil is rather limited, however.
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When it comes to growing food, consider the following:
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:'''[[Rice plant]]s''' will provide the best crop yields. Lit with a sunlamp in optimal temperatures, a hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|rice}} [[rice]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Rice plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((2.8 - 1) * {{Q|Rice plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). The exact amount may vary due to sowing and harvesting times, as well as external factors like power outages and solar flares. In spite of this, rice remains the crop with the greatest yield potential.
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:'''[[Strawberry plant]]s''' provide the second highest crop yields, producing {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|berries}} [[berries]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Strawberry plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((2.8 - 1) * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]) under a sunlamp and optimal temperatures. This works out to about {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} }} food per hydroponics basin per day. This is {{%|{{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield in the same time-frame. However, berries have the advantage of being suitable for consumption immediately, without the need for cooking.
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:'''[[Potato plant]]s''' are the least tile-efficient crop to grow. Their fertility sensitivity of {{Q|Potato plant|Fertility Sensitivity}} prevents them from gaining the full benefit from hydroponics. A hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|potatoes}} [[potatoes]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Potato plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((2.8 - 1) * {{Q|Potato plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). That is only {{%|{{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, they are technically the most ''work''-efficient crop in hydroponics, however. If you happen to be starved on grower time, then potatoes have a small niche – but a colony using hydroponics is unlikely to be starved on grower time.
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:'''[[Nutrifungus]]''' {{IdeologyIcon}} might be a viable option if your [[ideoligion]] {{IdeologyIcon}} prefers eating [[raw fungus]]. A hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|raw fungus}} [[raw fungus]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Nutrifungus|Real Grow Days}} / (((2.8 - 1) * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). That is only {{%|{{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (280)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, but with a potential mood buff {{IdeologyIcon}}.
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=== Stony soil ===
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Since they have a unique use [[cotton plant]], [[healroot]], [[smokeleaf plant]] and [[tinctoria]] are all excellent choices for hydroponics basins. The same is true for [[hop plant]], [[psychoid plant]], [[fibercorn]] {{IdeologyIcon}} and [[toxipotato plant]],{{BiotechIcon}} their [[Property:Fertility Sensitivity|fertility sensitivity]] of 70% to 0% respectively means the advantage of growing them in hydroponics basins compared to less fertile soil is rather limited, however.
 +
 
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When it comes to growing food, consider the following:
 +
 
 +
:'''[[Rice plant]]s''' will provide the best crop yields. Lit with a sunlamp in optimal temperatures, a hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|rice}} [[rice]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Rice plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((1 - 0.7) * {{Q|Rice plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). The exact amount may vary due to sowing and harvesting times, as well as external factors like power outages and solar flares. In spite of this, rice remains the crop with the greatest yield potential.
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:'''[[Strawberry plant]]s''' provide the second highest crop yields, producing {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|berries}} [[berries]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Strawberry plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((1 - 0.7) * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]) under a sunlamp and optimal temperatures. This works out to about {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} }} food per hydroponics basin per day. This is {{%|{{Q|Strawberry plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield in the same time-frame. However, berries have the advantage of being suitable for consumption immediately, without the need for cooking.
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:'''[[Potato plant]]s''' are the least tile-efficient crop to grow. Their fertility sensitivity of {{Q|Potato plant|Fertility Sensitivity}} prevents them from gaining the full benefit from hydroponics. A hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|potatoes}} [[potatoes]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Potato plant|Real Grow Days}} / (((1 - 0.7) * {{Q|Potato plant|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). That is only {{%|{{Q|Potato plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, they are technically the most ''work''-efficient crop in hydroponics, however. If you happen to be starved on grower time, then potatoes have a small niche – but a colony using hydroponics is unlikely to be starved on grower time.
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:'''[[Nutrifungus]]''' {{IdeologyIcon}} might be a viable option if your [[ideoligion]] {{IdeologyIcon}} prefers eating [[raw fungus]]. A hydroponics basin will yield {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield}} }} {{Icon Small|raw fungus}} [[raw fungus]] every {{#expr: {{Q|Nutrifungus|Real Grow Days}} / (((1 - 0.7) * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Fertility Sensitivity}}) + 1) round 2}}&nbsp;days, or {{#expr: 4 * {{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} }} food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from [[difficulty]]). That is only {{%|{{Q|Nutrifungus|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}} / {{Q|Rice plant|Harvest Yield Per Day (70)}}|2}} of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, but with a potential mood buff {{IdeologyIcon}}.

Latest revision as of 18:41, 27 December 2023

Templates I created[edit]

Table templates[edit]

Formatting templates[edit]

Other[edit]

Maintenance[edit]

Maintenance[edit]

Trading calculations[edit]

The following pages provide an overview of the most profitable ways of selling a certain type of material:

To Do:

  • Check if profitability border really doesn't depend on material value.
  • Consider the 60% selling and 140% buying multipliers? --> No. Trade Price Improvement including the standard 60% selling and 140% buying multipliers don't change the relative profitability.
  • Excel probably rounds 2.5 up. Market value states, that it should be rounded down.
  • Example calculations
  • Overview tables

Test Pages[edit]

Notes[edit]

To-Do[edit]

  • Trading value table
    • Should silver/work and silver/material columns include the general selling multiplier of 0.6? --> No, it's only supposed to show relative profitability
    • Improve the comprehensibility of the table.
    • Delete the test pages.

Ideas[edit]

  • Create a table for level 20 skill to calculate the profit for trading.

Properties that would be helpful if they were defined on each page[edit]

Issues I stumbled upon and couldn't solve[edit]

  • mw-collapsible in combination with a caption seems to remove the colour from the top row of a table

Another message from Harakoni[edit]

Sorry to intrude, another one on your user page because you can't see code on your talk page. (You can feel free to delete the above one btw)

Wait so after all the production to fix tool cabinet to this

We could have just done this?

That is kinda frustrating - Harakoni (Wiki Moderator) (talk) 12:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@User:Harakoni, I just noticed: the second solution doesn't set the number of columns automatically depending on how many fit on the screen. --Ickputzdirwech (talk) 00:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Another really nice way to make automated lists:

<ul><li>{{#ask: [[Name::~*spot]]
 | format = template
 | template = DLC Icons
 | link = none
 | sep = </li><li>
}}</li></ul>

Plant choice[edit]

Hydroponics basin[edit]

Since they have a unique use cotton plant, healroot, smokeleaf plant and tinctoria are all excellent choices for hydroponics basins. The same is true for hop plant, psychoid plant, fibercorn Content added by the Ideology DLC and toxipotato plant,Content added by the Biotech DLC their fertility sensitivity of 70% to 0% respectively means the advantage of growing them in hydroponics basins compared to less fertile soil is rather limited, however.

When it comes to growing food, consider the following:

Rice plants will provide the best crop yields. Lit with a sunlamp in optimal temperatures, a hydroponics basin will yield 24 Rice rice every 1.98 days, or 12.12 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). The exact amount may vary due to sowing and harvesting times, as well as external factors like power outages and solar flares. In spite of this, rice remains the crop with the greatest yield potential.
Strawberry plants provide the second highest crop yields, producing 32 Berries berries every 3.03 days (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty) under a sunlamp and optimal temperatures. This works out to about 10.56 food per hydroponics basin per day. This is 87.13% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield in the same time-frame. However, berries have the advantage of being suitable for consumption immediately, without the need for cooking.
Potato plants are the least tile-efficient crop to grow. Their fertility sensitivity of 0.4 prevents them from gaining the full benefit from hydroponics. A hydroponics basin will yield 44 Potatoes potatoes every 6.23 days, or 7.08 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). That is only 58.42% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, they are technically the most work-efficient crop in hydroponics, however. If you happen to be starved on grower time, then potatoes have a small niche – but a colony using hydroponics is unlikely to be starved on grower time.
Nutrifungus Content added by the Ideology DLC might be a viable option if your ideoligion Content added by the Ideology DLC prefers eating raw fungus. A hydroponics basin will yield 44 Raw fungus raw fungus every 8.72 days, or 5.04 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). That is only 41.58% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, but with a potential mood buff Content added by the Ideology DLC.

Stony soil[edit]

Since they have a unique use cotton plant, healroot, smokeleaf plant and tinctoria are all excellent choices for hydroponics basins. The same is true for hop plant, psychoid plant, fibercorn Content added by the Ideology DLC and toxipotato plant,Content added by the Biotech DLC their fertility sensitivity of 70% to 0% respectively means the advantage of growing them in hydroponics basins compared to less fertile soil is rather limited, however.

When it comes to growing food, consider the following:

Rice plants will provide the best crop yields. Lit with a sunlamp in optimal temperatures, a hydroponics basin will yield 24 Rice rice every 4.26 days, or 3.04 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). The exact amount may vary due to sowing and harvesting times, as well as external factors like power outages and solar flares. In spite of this, rice remains the crop with the greatest yield potential.
Strawberry plants provide the second highest crop yields, producing 32 Berries berries every 6.53 days (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty) under a sunlamp and optimal temperatures. This works out to about 2.64 food per hydroponics basin per day. This is 86.84% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield in the same time-frame. However, berries have the advantage of being suitable for consumption immediately, without the need for cooking.
Potato plants are the least tile-efficient crop to grow. Their fertility sensitivity of 0.4 prevents them from gaining the full benefit from hydroponics. A hydroponics basin will yield 44 Potatoes potatoes every 9.56 days, or 3.6 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). That is only 118.42% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, they are technically the most work-efficient crop in hydroponics, however. If you happen to be starved on grower time, then potatoes have a small niche – but a colony using hydroponics is unlikely to be starved on grower time.
Nutrifungus Content added by the Ideology DLC might be a viable option if your ideoligion Content added by the Ideology DLC prefers eating raw fungus. A hydroponics basin will yield 44 Raw fungus raw fungus every 10.6 days, or 3.8 food per day (assuming a 100% mutiplier from difficulty). That is only 125% of what a crop of hydroponic rice would yield the same time-frame, but with a potential mood buff Content added by the Ideology DLC.