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==Mood==
 
==Mood==
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"Normal" colonists in base game (Core RimWorld) recieve penalties whenever ''anyone'' in the colony: butchers corpses, harvest organs, kills a pawn through organ harvest, or sells slaves. Colonists will know these actions happened even while on a [[caravan]], or in another settlement.Colonists will also recieve penalties for seeing corpses, eating human flesh, or wearing human leather. They also don't like butchering corpses themselves.
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Some additional care can be taken to maintain mood levels through other means, such as providing additional [[recreation]], [[psychic soothe pulser]]s, better [[meal]]s, [[drugs]] or improved quality bed. [[Ideoligion]]{{IdeologyIcon}}, from the [[Ideology]] DLC, may instead give pawns mood ''buffs'' for many of these actions.
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Performing "''harmful surgery on (a) member''" of another faction will immediately [[Factions#Damaging Relations|hurt relations]] by -20 points.  This is per prisoner, not per surgery.
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=== Traits ===
 
=== Traits ===
 
The three [[traits]] below make a colonist react indifferently or even enthusiastically towards human suffering or abuse. If there are more than one of the traits on the same person, the most beneficial one applies (e.g. a Cannibal will always receive +20 mood per day by eating raw human flesh, no matter what other traits that colonist has).
 
The three [[traits]] below make a colonist react indifferently or even enthusiastically towards human suffering or abuse. If there are more than one of the traits on the same person, the most beneficial one applies (e.g. a Cannibal will always receive +20 mood per day by eating raw human flesh, no matter what other traits that colonist has).
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=== Ideology precepts & mèmes ===
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=== Ideoligon ===
 
{{Ideology|No category}}
 
{{Ideology|No category}}
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With the [[Ideology]] DLC, pawns can tolerate - or even enjoy - certain illicit practices. The following precepts are relevant:
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*'''Cannibalism: '''
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! Cannibalism Precepts!! Butchers human !! Somebody butchers human (colonywide) !! Eats human flesh !! Wears human skin clothing !! Eats non-human flesh meal
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:*Cannibalism: Acceptable - Negates penalties for butchering humans and human flesh, enjoys eating human flesh
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:*Cannibalism: Preferred (+) - Negates penalties for butchering humans, enjoys eating human flesh and wearing human leather
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| Cannibalism: Abhorrent || <span style="color:#ff0000">-12 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-5 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-20 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2/-4/-6/-8 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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*'''Corpses:''' Don't Care - Negates penalties from seeing corpses, fresh or rotten.
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*'''Organ Use:''' Acceptable - Negates all penalties from organ harvesting.
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*'''Slavery:'''
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| Cannibalism: Horrible || <span style="color:#ff0000">-6 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-3 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-12 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2/-3/-5/-6 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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:*Slavery: Acceptable - Negates penalties for selling prisoners or using slave labor
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:*Slavery: Honorable - Mood buffs for selling slaves and enslaving others
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| Cannibalism: Disapproved || <span style="color:#ff0000">-3 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-1 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-5 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-1/-2/-3/-4 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
 
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| Cannibalism: Acceptable || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
 
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| Cannibalism: Preferred || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+1/+2/+3/+4 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
 
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| Cannibalism: Required (Strong) || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2/+3/+5/+6 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span>
 
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| Cannibalism: Required (Ravenous) || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+6 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2/+4/+6/+8 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span>
 
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! Corpse Precepts!! Observes Corpse !! Observes rotting corpse
 
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| Corpses: Ugly || <span style="color:#ff0000">-4 Mood (0.5 days. 3 stacks. 0.5 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-6 Mood (0.5 days. 5 stacks. 0.3 stack multiplier</span>
 
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| Corpses: Don't care || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
 
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==Unprocessed Corpses==
 
==Unprocessed Corpses==
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*If the heart and liver are both unavailable, you may harvest a second kidney or lung.
 
*If the heart and liver are both unavailable, you may harvest a second kidney or lung.
  
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If unwilling to organ-murder the donor, then you shouldn't remove the heart or the liver, leading to a value of {{Icon Small|silver||65.0}}. ''If'' a [[prosthetic heart]] is available, then you can replace a healthy heart for the cheaper prosthetic, for a profit of {{Icon Small|silver||920}}.
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If unwilling to organ-murder the donor, then you shouldn't remove the heart or the liver, leading to a value of {{Icon Small|silver||65.0}}. ''If'' a [[prosthetic heart]] is available, then you can replace a healthy heart for the cheaper prosthetic, for a profit of {{Icon Small|silver||920}}. If the organ "donor" is still alive, they'll receive a -30 mood penalty ''per organ'' removed, at 75% stacking, up to 5 times. Expect survivors to [[break]], so check their melee skill accordingl.
  
 
Their default <u>market</u> value is displayed above. In practice the actual buying/selling price is the market price modified by [[Trade Price Improvement|trading skills/etc.]], and failing the surgery makes things more expensive.
 
Their default <u>market</u> value is displayed above. In practice the actual buying/selling price is the market price modified by [[Trade Price Improvement|trading skills/etc.]], and failing the surgery makes things more expensive.
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===Mood===
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Cannibals don't like organ harvest - if it's not on the menu, it's probably wrong. Ideoligion
  
 
== Selling Slaves ==
 
== Selling Slaves ==
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Pawns will suffer a mood penalty of -3, stacking up to -15 for 4 days once slaves are sold. Psychopaths are immune to the debuff, but there is no other way to avoid it in Core Rimworld. Non-psychopaths will have a significant [[Social|negative opinion]] of whoever sells the slaves.
 
Pawns will suffer a mood penalty of -3, stacking up to -15 for 4 days once slaves are sold. Psychopaths are immune to the debuff, but there is no other way to avoid it in Core Rimworld. Non-psychopaths will have a significant [[Social|negative opinion]] of whoever sells the slaves.
  
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The exact variables and their effect is still in need of analysis, but at a certain point harvesting a prisoner for their organs can be significantly more profitable. Selling slaves incurs a smaller mood decrease, but can also be stacked and lasts longer. Butchering the resulting corpse from an organ death for leather and meat can increase the profit, at the cost of another mood debuff. Debuffs from slavery, organ harvesting, and butchering all stack, so it becomes very dangerous unless your colony is filled with psychopaths/cannibals or has an [[Ideoligion]]{{IconIdeology}} that negates them.
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The exact variables and their effect is still in need of analysis, but at a certain point harvesting a prisoner for their organs can be significantly more profitable. Selling slaves incurs a smaller mood decrease, but can also be stacked and lasts longer. Butchering the resulting corpse from an organ death for leather and meat can increase the profit, at the cost of another mood debuff. Debuffs from slavery, organ harvesting, and butchering all stack, so it becomes very dangerous unless your colony is filled with psychopaths/cannibals or has an [[Ideoligion]]{{IdeologyIcon}} that negates them.
  
 
===Selling Options==
 
===Selling Options==
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*Alternatively, as the penalty caps out at a stack of 5, selling more than 5 prisoners does not increase the debuff further. Thus, selling in a single burst can be more efficient so long as the larger debuff can be withstood. Timing the sale with the occurance of a wedding or party for example can help. Slaves can be stored in [[cryptosleep casket]]s to eliminate their upkeep cost while waiting to sell them. Note that prisoners must generally be anaesthetized to do so, and after removing them from the casket they will take some time to both wake up and fully recover which can affect both whether they can be sold and their price. Plan ahead to give them time to recover before their time of sale.
 
*Alternatively, as the penalty caps out at a stack of 5, selling more than 5 prisoners does not increase the debuff further. Thus, selling in a single burst can be more efficient so long as the larger debuff can be withstood. Timing the sale with the occurance of a wedding or party for example can help. Slaves can be stored in [[cryptosleep casket]]s to eliminate their upkeep cost while waiting to sell them. Note that prisoners must generally be anaesthetized to do so, and after removing them from the casket they will take some time to both wake up and fully recover which can affect both whether they can be sold and their price. Plan ahead to give them time to recover before their time of sale.
  
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== Slaves (Ideology) ==
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== Slaves (Ideology DLC) ==
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With the [[Ideology DLC]]{{IconIdeology}}, slaves become controllable workers. Slaves are acquired through threatening prisoners and dropping their will down to zero.
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With [[Ideology]]{{IdeologyIcon}}, slaves become controllable workers. Slaves are acquired through threatening prisoners and dropping their will down to zero.
  
 
Although slaves are controllable and appear in the colonist bar, they work at 85% speed and you run the risk of a slave rebellion, similar to a prison break. The frequency of slave rebellions are determined by [[mood]], [[suppression]], proximity of weapons, and the presence of colonists. Unlike prisoners, colonists and slaves can have intimate relationships.  
 
Although slaves are controllable and appear in the colonist bar, they work at 85% speed and you run the risk of a slave rebellion, similar to a prison break. The frequency of slave rebellions are determined by [[mood]], [[suppression]], proximity of weapons, and the presence of colonists. Unlike prisoners, colonists and slaves can have intimate relationships.  
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Colonists and slaves cannot sleep in the same bed, but they can sleep in the same room. If you want the two to sleep together, both must be made into colonists or slaves.
 
Colonists and slaves cannot sleep in the same bed, but they can sleep in the same room. If you want the two to sleep together, both must be made into colonists or slaves.
  
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==Ideoligion Table==
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{{Ideology|No category}}
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! Cannibalism Precepts!! Butchers human !! Somebody butchers human (colonywide) !! Eats human flesh !! Wears human skin clothing !! Eats non-human flesh meal
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| Cannibalism: Abhorrent || <span style="color:#ff0000">-12 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-5 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-20 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2/-4/-6/-8 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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| Cannibalism: Horrible || <span style="color:#ff0000">-6 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-3 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-12 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2/-3/-5/-6 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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| Cannibalism: Disapproved || <span style="color:#ff0000">-3 Mood (6 days.)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-1 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-5 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-1/-2/-3/-4 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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| Cannibalism: Acceptable || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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| Cannibalism: Preferred || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+1/+2/+3/+4 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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| Cannibalism: Required (Strong) || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2/+3/+5/+6 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span>
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| Cannibalism: Required (Ravenous) || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+6 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span> || <span style="color:#008000">+2/+4/+6/+8 Mood</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)</span>
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! Corpse Precepts!! Observes Corpse !! Observes rotting corpse
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| Corpses: Ugly || <span style="color:#ff0000">-4 Mood (0.5 days. 3 stacks. 0.5 Stack Multiplier)</span> || <span style="color:#ff0000">-6 Mood (0.5 days. 5 stacks. 0.3 stack multiplier</span>
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| Corpses: Don't care || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span> || <span style="color:#000000">Immune to Debuff</span>
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== Table of mood effects ==
 
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These are the standard penalties (and a few boosts) that colonists suffer from this category of activities.
 
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Molotoving the corpses requires as much time as it takes to manually equip a pawn with [[molotov cocktails]], telling them to toss one, and then re-equipping them with their other weapon. The exact work/corpse depends on just how full you are willing to let your burn site get before burning it.   
 
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At base, cremating a pawn takes {{ticks|180}} of work. The best it can be realistically and reliably reduced to is ?.
 
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At base, butchering any organic pawn takes {{ticks|450}}. A healthy pawn with [[archotech arm]]s and [[Cooking]] 20, working on a [[butcher table]] linked to two [[tool cabinet]]s, butchers a human in {{ticks|167}}. Stacking [[Global Work Speed]] and [[Manipulation]] buffs can get this higher but is less realistic. Butchering requires that the tainted clothes being dealt with separately. On one hand, this means that more work must be invested to dispose of them, either hauling them to a burn site or cremating them for a base {{ticks|60}} of work per item. On the other, smelting the [[apparel]] and not-useful [[utility]] items are a very work efficient source of metals after the easy veins have been exploited.
 
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===== [[Mood|Effect on moods]] =====
 
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Most all colonists get a -6 for the procedure occurring, and stacking up to 5 times, although at a .25 multiplier (for a total -10 max).  Note that this is ''per organ'', not per <s>victim</s> patient. This does not occur when replacing an organ with an artificial one, nor from removing prosthetics. [[Psychopath]]s are immune to this, and those with [[bloodlust]] actually get a +4 ''boost'' to their mood.
 
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The surgeon gets an ''additional'' -5 mood debuff for harvesting organs, unless they have the [[psychopath]] or [[bloodlust]] trait. This debuff also stacks 5 times, with a debuff multiplier of 0.75.
 
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Note that [[cannibal]]s feel normally about this; unless it's on the menu, it's probably a bad thing.
 
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Also note that the patient receives a -30 mood penalty ''per organ'' removed, at 75% stacking, up to 5 times. Expect patients (that survive the procedure, ahem) to [[break]], unless their environment can counter this penalty.  Consider the [[melee]] skill of potential "donors", and consider adding additional doors and other security measures to their holding rooms against the inevitable.
 
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==== [[Factions#Relationship status|Effect on Factions]] ====
 
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Performing "''harmful surgery on (a) member''" of another faction will immediately [[Factions#Damaging Relations|hurt relations]] by -20 points.  This is per prisoner, not per surgery.
 
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== Mitigation strategies ==
 
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There are some approaches you can use to minimize or even negate the usual penalties, though some are rather convoluted.
 
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==== Butchering ====
 
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It is possible to butcher human corpses without penalty for anyone if you send everybody who would be debuffed off the map (on a caravan) until all humans have been chopped up. You need a butcher who can butcher humanlikes without debuff (or else your butcher will take a severe mood penalty).
 
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Colonists who are not on the map when a humanoid corpse is butchered do not receive the "[[Mood#We butchered humanlike|we butchered humanlike]]" mood penalty. It is sufficient to put all colonists who are neither psychopath, bloodlusted nor cannibal on a temporary caravan (take no items), send them off the map to an adjacent tile and make the caravan rest immediately. Then have your psycho butchers chop up all the humans. Re-enter with the caravan when it is done. It is not necessary to take any prisoners off the map, as they do not receive the debuff in any case.
 
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Alternatively, given the mood penalty is relatively low for human butchery, only -6, the penalty can just be accepted as the cost of doing this business. Some additional care can be taken to maintain mood levels through other means, such as providing additional [[recreation]], [[psychic soothe pulser]]s, better [[meal]]s, [[drugs]] or improved quality bed, dining and rec rooms. Diet too - just providing 1 lavish meal per day for each effected colonist for the 10 day duration is more then enough to counter the penalty. It is recommended to use a non-effected pawn to actually do the butchery though, as the penalties stack and -12 is a significant debuf. <!-- No evidence that this still occurs:
 
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Everybody will handle human meat without complaint, as long as they do not have to eat it in any form.
 
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Revision as of 05:59, 5 October 2022

Human Resources are everything that a body can offer: slavery, organ harvesting, wearing human skin, Cannibalism. Most pawns have a severe distaste for these things, but in dire circumstances it can be necessary to use every resource.

Most forms of HR impart significant mood penalties on many colonists, but they are also a potential route to survival and even a source of income. A number of traits can make this feasible as a core strategy for a colony - some colonies might even make it the preferred standard for living.

Mood

"Normal" colonists in base game (Core RimWorld) recieve penalties whenever anyone in the colony: butchers corpses, harvest organs, kills a pawn through organ harvest, or sells slaves. Colonists will know these actions happened even while on a caravan, or in another settlement.Colonists will also recieve penalties for seeing corpses, eating human flesh, or wearing human leather. They also don't like butchering corpses themselves.

Some additional care can be taken to maintain mood levels through other means, such as providing additional recreation, psychic soothe pulsers, better meals, drugs or improved quality bed. IdeoligionContent added by the Ideology DLC, from the Ideology DLC, may instead give pawns mood buffs for many of these actions.

Performing "harmful surgery on (a) member" of another faction will immediately hurt relations by -20 points. This is per prisoner, not per surgery.

Traits

The three traits below make a colonist react indifferently or even enthusiastically towards human suffering or abuse. If there are more than one of the traits on the same person, the most beneficial one applies (e.g. a Cannibal will always receive +20 mood per day by eating raw human flesh, no matter what other traits that colonist has).

  • Psychopath: No issue with fresh corpses, butchering corpses, slavery, or organ harvesting
  • does NOT like seeing rotten corpses, eating human flesh, or wearing human skin clothing
  • Bloodlust: No issue with corpses (even rotten), butchering, or organ harvesting.
  • likes to wear human skin, doesn't mind wearing tainted apparel (i.e. taken from a dead body)
  • does NOT like cannibalism or slavery
  • Cannibal: No issue with fresh corpses, butchering corpses, loves human flesh and likes human leather
  • does NOT like slavery or organ harvesting.

Table

Trait Observes corpse Observes rotting corpse Butchers human Somebody butchers human (colonywide) Eats raw human flesh Eats meal with human flesh Wears human skin clothing Trades human flesh or leather A slave is sold (colonywide) An organ is harvested (colonywide)
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 colonist)		 -3 Mood (0.25 days. 3 Stacks. 0.5 Stack Multiplier) -7 Mood (0.25 days. 5 Stacks. 0.3 Stack Multiplier) -6 Mood (6 days. 4 Stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier) -6 Mood (6 days. 1 Stack) -20 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) -15 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) -3/-5/-7/-8 Mood No Debuff -3 Mood (4 days. 5 Stacks) -5 Mood (7.5 days. 5 Stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier)
Psychopath Immune to Debuff Normal Penalty Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Normal Penalty Normal Penalty Normal Penalty No Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff
Bloodlust Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Normal Penalty Normal Penalty +3/+5/+7/+8 Mood No Debuff Normal Penalty +4 Mood (stack unknown)
Cannibal Immune to Debuff Normal Penalty Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff +20 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) +15 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) +3/+5/+7/+8 Mood No Debuff Normal Penalty Normal Penalty

Ideoligon

IdeologyIcon.png
This article relates to content added by Ideology (DLC). Please note that it will not be present without the DLC enabled.

With the Ideology DLC, pawns can tolerate - or even enjoy - certain illicit practices. The following precepts are relevant:

  • Cannibalism:
  • Cannibalism: Acceptable - Negates penalties for butchering humans and human flesh, enjoys eating human flesh
  • Cannibalism: Preferred (+) - Negates penalties for butchering humans, enjoys eating human flesh and wearing human leather
  • Corpses: Don't Care - Negates penalties from seeing corpses, fresh or rotten.
  • Organ Use: Acceptable - Negates all penalties from organ harvesting.
  • Slavery:
  • Slavery: Acceptable - Negates penalties for selling prisoners or using slave labor
  • Slavery: Honorable - Mood buffs for selling slaves and enslaving others

Unprocessed Corpses

Animals don't mind eating humans - it isn't canibalism, after all. You may want to leave your pile of raider corpses for your wargs and other carnivores to eat, which also acts as free corpse disposal. Feeding raiders has no penalty for the colony, except for the seen corpse debuff.

Human butchering

By default, "humanlike corpses" is turned off under the [Details...] tab under [Bills] on a butcher table, to avoid accidental over-enthusiasm. Simply go in and turn click it back on, and get to your dark deeds. Butchering a human produces Human meat human meat and Human leather human leather.

If people are butchered, they should be butchered together, as the colony-wide mood debuff does not stack. Shelves should be used to "hide" corpses from colonists who dislike seeing them.

The most important factor is to have a pawn that does not get the butchering penalty to do butchering. That penalty stacks and gets quite large. Meanwhile, any number of corpses can be butchered and the mood penalty to the rest of the colony will be the same. Obviously the right ideoligionContent added by the Ideology DLC makes this significantly easier.

Human Meat

Human meat is nutrition like any other. The meat itself can be used as a last resort, or as a nice mood buff for cannibals. To cannibals, raw flesh is even better than a lavish meal, but this is trading a colony-wide -6 buff (for butchering a corpse at all) for a +20 for a single colonist.

Human meat can also be used in a biofuel refinery to create chemfuel, used to make kibble and other animal meals, and used in a biosculpter podContent added by the Ideology DLC with no penalties (beyond the initial butchering).

Human Leather

Human leather, the other by-product of butchering a human, is terrible as a protective textile, but has a high market value. If made into clothing, wearing such items give a mood boost to pawns with the bloodlust or cannibal traits.

Without DLC, creating human armchairs or dusters is the most valuable way to use textiles. If the Royalty DLCContent added by the Royalty DLC is enabled, this role is instead taken by formal vests and corsets.

Market Value

A human corpse provides an average of 92.5 human meat, before missing body arts and scenario modifiers are taken into acount, for a market value of Silver 73.92. This can be cooked into Simple meal 9.25 simple meals worth Silver 138.75 and costing 5 work, or processed in a biofuel refinery for Chemfuel 46.25, worth Silver 106.37. Fine meals are more valuable if you have the vegetable ingredients for them.

They also provide an average of 50 human leather, worth Silver 210 on its own. It is enough for 5/8ths of a duster; when converted into normal quality dusters, each corpse is worth around Silver 231.25 and 105 work. However, there may be leftover human leather, which is not accounted for.

Therefore, each undamaged butchered corpse is worth Silver 284 in raw resources. If corpses are butchered into bulk, they are worth Silver 370 when converted into simple meals and normal quality dusters. This is before considering corpse damage, sell prices, quality...

Organ Harvesting

See also: Surgery and Medical Surgery Success Chance

Organ harvesting requires a doctor and 2 units of herbal medicine or better. Organs must be undamaged; diseased organs are not available to harvest. The kidneys, lungs, liver and heart are all options for harvesting, for use in other colonists or selling on the market. You can harvest the following from a healthy pawn until they die:

  • 1 kidney worth Silver 900
  • 1 lung worth Silver 1,000
  • Either 1 heart or 1 liver, worth Silver 1,200.
    • If you have a prosthetic heart, you may replace a healthy heart with the cheaper prosthetic (costing Silver 230), then harvest the liver, worth Silver 1,200.

Harvesting three organs is worth a total of Silver 900 + Silver 1,000 + (Silver Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character ",". or Silver 1,200) = Silver 1150 market value.

  • Placing a prosthetic heart and harvesting the liver adds Silver 1,200 and subtracts -Silver 230, for a total of Silver 1420, more if you can craft your own prosthetic hearts.
  • If the heart and liver are both unavailable, you may harvest a second kidney or lung.

If unwilling to organ-murder the donor, then you shouldn't remove the heart or the liver, leading to a value of Silver 65.0. If a prosthetic heart is available, then you can replace a healthy heart for the cheaper prosthetic, for a profit of Silver 920. If the organ "donor" is still alive, they'll receive a -30 mood penalty per organ removed, at 75% stacking, up to 5 times. Expect survivors to break, so check their melee skill accordingl.

Their default market value is displayed above. In practice the actual buying/selling price is the market price modified by trading skills/etc., and failing the surgery makes things more expensive.

Mood

Cannibals don't like organ harvest - if it's not on the menu, it's probably wrong. Ideoligion

Selling Slaves

Main article: Slavery

Slavery in Core RimWorld is the sale of prisoners to other factions. Humans have a base value of Silver 1750. This is reduced and increased by various traits, reduced by injuries and ailments, and increased directly by their bionics' value. It is a quick way to get decent amounts of money quickly.

Pawns will suffer a mood penalty of -3, stacking up to -15 for 4 days once slaves are sold. Psychopaths are immune to the debuff, but there is no other way to avoid it in Core Rimworld. Non-psychopaths will have a significant negative opinion of whoever sells the slaves.

The exact variables and their effect is still in need of analysis, but at a certain point harvesting a prisoner for their organs can be significantly more profitable. Selling slaves incurs a smaller mood decrease, but can also be stacked and lasts longer. Butchering the resulting corpse from an organ death for leather and meat can increase the profit, at the cost of another mood debuff. Debuffs from slavery, organ harvesting, and butchering all stack, so it becomes very dangerous unless your colony is filled with psychopaths/cannibals or has an IdeoligionContent added by the Ideology DLC that negates them.

=Selling Options

  • One way of dealing with this is to sell only 1-2 slaves every 4 days, keeping the mood debuff small, and easily managed by measures such as temporarily using drugs or lavish meals, or simply tanking the mood if the colony is happy otherwise. Traders generally only stay for around two days, and only appear occasionally, which makes selling slowly difficult without a nearby faction base.
  • Alternatively, as the penalty caps out at a stack of 5, selling more than 5 prisoners does not increase the debuff further. Thus, selling in a single burst can be more efficient so long as the larger debuff can be withstood. Timing the sale with the occurance of a wedding or party for example can help. Slaves can be stored in cryptosleep caskets to eliminate their upkeep cost while waiting to sell them. Note that prisoners must generally be anaesthetized to do so, and after removing them from the casket they will take some time to both wake up and fully recover which can affect both whether they can be sold and their price. Plan ahead to give them time to recover before their time of sale.

Slaves (Ideology DLC)

With IdeologyContent added by the Ideology DLC, slaves become controllable workers. Slaves are acquired through threatening prisoners and dropping their will down to zero.

Although slaves are controllable and appear in the colonist bar, they work at 85% speed and you run the risk of a slave rebellion, similar to a prison break. The frequency of slave rebellions are determined by mood, suppression, proximity of weapons, and the presence of colonists. Unlike prisoners, colonists and slaves can have intimate relationships.

Colonists and slaves cannot sleep in the same bed, but they can sleep in the same room. If you want the two to sleep together, both must be made into colonists or slaves.

Ideoligion Table

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Cannibalism Precepts Butchers human Somebody butchers human (colonywide) Eats human flesh Wears human skin clothing Eats non-human flesh meal
Cannibalism: Abhorrent -12 Mood (6 days.) -5 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier) -20 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) -2/-4/-6/-8 Mood Immune to Debuff
Cannibalism: Horrible -6 Mood (6 days.) -3 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier) -12 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) -2/-3/-5/-6 Mood Immune to Debuff
Cannibalism: Disapproved -3 Mood (6 days.) -1 Mood (5 days. 5 stacks. 0.75 Stack Multiplier) -5 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) -1/-2/-3/-4 Mood Immune to Debuff
Cannibalism: Acceptable Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff
Cannibalism: Preferred Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff +2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) +1/+2/+3/+4 Mood Immune to Debuff
Cannibalism: Required (Strong) Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff +4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) +2/+3/+5/+6 Mood -2 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)
Cannibalism: Required (Ravenous) Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff +6 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack) +2/+4/+6/+8 Mood -4 Mood (1 day. 1 Stack)
Corpse Precepts Observes Corpse Observes rotting corpse
Corpses: Ugly -4 Mood (0.5 days. 3 stacks. 0.5 Stack Multiplier) -6 Mood (0.5 days. 5 stacks. 0.3 stack multiplier
Corpses: Don't care Immune to Debuff Immune to Debuff
  • Organ Use:Acceptable*


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