User talk:Zesty

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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Main_Page/editcopy221:18, 9 January 2018
New Moderators107:09, 29 December 2017
Two questions about deletion500:24, 2 December 2017
A template for outdated items?111:16, 25 January 2017
Help category on main page?215:54, 17 January 2017
Unregistered users cannot edit anymore.017:22, 10 January 2017
Portability of WP Templates211:08, 24 July 2016
Questions for the Wiki221:54, 4 March 2015
Duplicate pages013:16, 4 March 2015
/en105:12, 20 August 2014
You should REALLY calm down now300:05, 19 August 2014


It seems that the page Main_Page/editcopy has fallen into disuse, obsolete, and outdated. The true main page is not locked down - many (good) edits have been made so it's been great so far.

An argument could be made for deleting the editcopy page, but I'm not so sure. Maybe we'll need it again sometime.

Perhaps it's best to copy the main page's content to the editcopy page so it's at least up to date. And perhaps we should change the editcopy message at the top of the page - saying that one can suggest a change on Talk:Main_Page or can make the change directly. And/or add the Obsolete tag.

Any thoughts on this?

Jimyoda (talk)20:36, 9 January 2018

I don't think it needs to be deleted, it's still useful as a way to draft/suggest changes to the Main Page before committing to them.

Zesty (talk)20:39, 9 January 2018

Okay, but in it's current state it's really unusable because it's so outdated. I'll plan on updating it to be on level with the current main page.

Jimyoda (talk)21:18, 9 January 2018

New Moderators


Please welcome some new moderators for the wiki:

All three have been here for ages and have added a lot to the wiki, as well as brought issues to my attention.

Also please note that regular users no longer have the ability to move pages. You can ask the above moderators to move pages if needed.

Zesty02:09, 29 December 2017

Huzzah! Well done, fellas! See you've already been hard at work cleaning up.
Yup, I'm happy to oblige if anyone needs a page moved, or anything else for that matter. Just drop it on my talk page or on the pertinent page's discussion.

Jimyoda (talk)07:09, 29 December 2017

Two questions about deletion

Two questions...

1. There are many pages with titles that start with L10n. They look obsolete. Is it okay to tag them for deletion?

Here's a list:

2. I believe the language localization is defunct. Can those pages be deleted? (pages ending with /en, /ru, /sk, /fr)

Jimyoda (talk)20:20, 13 July 2017

Yeah, you can mark the L10n pages for deletion and the old translation plugin pages for deletion too.

Zesty (talk)23:18, 13 July 2017

I marked all those defunct localization pages for deletion. They're all sitting there awaiting the final ax.

Jimyoda (talk)15:44, 29 November 2017

Got through all the L10n pages and some of the translation pages, will delete the rest a little later.

Zesty (talk)13:46, 1 December 2017

Was wondering if there should be more people that are allowed to delete pages. It'll be better if some of the more active players can delete unnecessary pages instead of having to wait for you to come.

PigeonGuru, Strategist ( talk | contribs | assist )00:22, 2 December 2017

I was considering it, it shouldn't be too hard to give delete perms to active wiki guys like you or Jimyoda

Zesty (talk)00:24, 2 December 2017

A template for outdated items?

Instead of deleting pages about outdated things in the game, why not just add some template like "Template:Outdated" to it?

Or does that exist already?

I'm stupid.

Spdskatr (talk)11:10, 25 January 2017

I think there is a template for it, it's just not used very much. In general, there isn't a lot of content that gets removed each alpha. One of the only things I can remember is the Blasting charge, which got removed and turned into an official mod given it was kinda OP. Otherwise, there isn't that much content that's getting removed.

The pages I delete are usually remains of a translation plugin. It didn't work, but those pages are still around.

Zesty (talk)11:16, 25 January 2017

Help category on main page?

I've created a tiny help category with 1 link. Hopefully by putting it on the main page this will attract attention and get some more editors to join this community. The category is called Category:Help pages. Your opinions?

Spdskatr (talk)09:08, 17 January 2017

Actually there's already Category:Help.

Jimyoda (talk)15:48, 17 January 2017

I've been meaning to make something like this for ages, so I really appreciate that you've started it.

In my opinion, the following should be covered with some examples:

  • Page creation (how to insert categories for a page, Page name casing like "Sniper rifle" and not "Sniper Rifle"

  • How templates are used
  • How to use template parameters like 60 ticks (1 sec)
  • Why templates are used (saves time, ensures consistency, automates a lot of work

  • How transculsions are used
  • How to transclude articles like Clothing Layers
    {{:Clothing Layers}}
  • Why transclusions are used (again saves time)

  • How Semantic MediaWiki works
  • Some very basic examples of Semantic MediaWiki queries

There's probably more we can add that I'm forgetting. When I have some time I'll add some of the above if someone doesn't beat me to it.

Zesty (talk)15:52, 17 January 2017

Unregistered users cannot edit anymore.

On Thoughts List, there's been a bunch of IP addresses that just delete bits of the article and replace it with "Hello!".

Blocking the IP addresses has had no real effect, so I've disabled editing for unregistered users. Nothing else has been changed, you can still edit to your heart's content with a wiki account.

If anyone disagrees with this, this is the place to post comments/concerns/etc.

Zesty (talk)17:22, 10 January 2017

Portability of WP Templates

Hey there. Been working on some templates and am running into a brick wall.

Most of the Wikipedia core templates were re-written to LUA ~2 years ago. This wiki doesn't run Extension:Scribunto, which means no #invoke:, so templates such as {{mbox}} and the rest of its family ({{ambox}}, {{tmbox}}, {{fmbox}}, etc) are broken. WP editors seems to have been extremely fervent in their pursuit to replace every legacy style mbox-type template, and I can find almost none that a decently visually appealing to borrow code from. I was considering going back and refactoring an early 2014 version of Mbox to work here (pre-LUA switch), but boy is it looking like a ton more work than expected and I'll probably find a heap more template transclusions to fix before it's even partially functional.

tl;dr: Are there any plans to activate Scribunto on this wiki to enable modern WP templates to be ported here?

Edit: fixed links

Theaetetus (talk)11:54, 23 July 2016

Hey, sorry for the delayed reply but I just got back from work. I can definitely look into enabling (or maybe installing, I'll have to check) Scribunto. I still gotta run it past Tynan, but it sounds like a pretty solid idea to me.

Zesty (talk)08:44, 24 July 2016

Cool cool. If you need any additional info, just let me know. I've been researching it quite a bit and think I've got a good handle on it. I get email alerts both here and on forum PM's.

Theaetetus (talk)11:08, 24 July 2016

Questions for the Wiki

Icons are used in various place for many small things. I cannot figure out how to make them. If you someone could shed some light on this topic, that would be greatly appreciated.

Caleb B. (talk)12:01, 4 March 2015

Check out

Example: Steel 30

The code for that is:



  • The first parameter is always 'icon' (it's the name of the template).
  • The second parameter is what you want the icon to be. The page shows all the available ones like metal, silver, potatoes, etc.
  • The third parameter lets you display an amount after the icon (it's optional).
  • The fourth parameter is also optional, but lets you edit the size (in pixels).

Here's an example with the size parameter. Silver 250

And the code:

Zesty (talk)12:53, 4 March 2015

Much appreciated, I have now added the few icons that were missing and put them where they needed to be, as far as I am aware.

Caleb B. (talk)21:54, 4 March 2015

Duplicate pages

Throw me a message here if you mark pages for deletion or have questions about deleting duplicate/spam/etc stuff from the wiki.

Zesty (talk)13:16, 4 March 2015

Do we really need all of the extra /en pages? If we do, we should at least bring them up to scratch with the regular pages. If not, we should mark all of them for deletion.

Die4doom (talk)05:11, 20 August 2014

No we don't need them, they're remnants of the translation plugin which we don't use anymore.

Feel free to mark them for deletion though, just make sure that you copy stuff over from them if the page is better than its non-en counter part.

Zesty (talk)05:12, 20 August 2014

You should REALLY calm down now

Like seriously. Stop doing that. THE COMMUNITY decided to do a new template and use it. YOU decided to fix something totally useless now.

DarkGhost (talk)00:02, 19 August 2014


It's my sandbox. Leave it alone. I'm not doing anything else.

Zesty (talk)00:03, 19 August 2014

You're doing something in your sandbox that is totally USELESS, what's the point ?

DarkGhost (talk)00:04, 19 August 2014


It's my sandbox. It's for testing, not everything is used there. You can stop worrying about it.

Please leave it alone.

Zesty (talk)00:05, 19 August 2014