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Pawn (talkcontribs)

Example

This important sentence now appears after TOC

Do you even read after you make these edits?

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

There is a format standard for a reason. The construction cost is not the most important part of the information and even if it was it wouldn't belong in the intro. The intro is a short introduction to topic. Detail goes in the body. This keeps the page formats consistent so readers always know where to go to find the information they're looking for, and stops the intro from being bloated into a monolithic page with no headings where you have to read everything to find the information you want. Removing the heading makes the page worse, makes it inconsistent with the others, and makes it less future proof.

And please stop spamming topics on my talk page. Just pick one and keep posting in it. In that vein of stopping the spam, regarding https://rimworldwiki.com/index.php?title=Hydroponics_basin&diff=111601&oldid=111545 deterioration doesn't apply to buildings. We don't need to and shouldn't spell out everything that doesn't apply to a page topic unless its a comparatively rare exception. We don't need to put for example that armchairs don't zzt when it rains or that pirates won't try to steal the filth on the floor or that cows don't explode when they die like boomalopes. But noting that corn plants are vulnerable to blight? Thats a good addition because its only the domesticated plants, a fairly small subset of plants, and even then there are a number of exceptions.

We also don't need to spell out things that apply to literally every member of its class, because those are handled by their parent pages. For example, every temperature sensitive plant has the same temperature ranges. There is some variation on when a given single individual plant will die, because it uses an RNG to decide the specific tick it dies on, but the ranges are the same.

Pawn (talkcontribs)

You said nothing about TOC before. You said nothing about TOC once again.

Pawn (talkcontribs)

MediaWiki is far from perfect and we have to deal with that sometimes... Now read carefully about TOC.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

Let me simplify it for you:

  • Content appearing after the TOC is a non issue.
  • Almost everything on the page is important. Thats why its on the page.
  • Construction cost is important. Cover mechanics are important. Fertility is important. Power requirements are important.
  • If everything important goes into the intro, then everything on the page goes into the intro
  • That makes the page harder to read and the ToC unusable.
  • Being below the ToC isn't an issue. Being before the content and linking to it is what it is for.

Now I have been patient, I have explained in both the edit summaries and here why the standards exist and I have repeatedly asked you to actually explain what the hell you're talking about both in Talk and on the pages you edit. You have consistently failed to do this. I still have no idea why you think being below the ToC is such a problem. You have also continued to make pages worse, inserting random non-sequiturs, wrecking formatting even putting aside any format standards, and spamming red links that will never be filled instead of just finding the relevant already-existent page to link or just leaving it unlinked. And you have continued to be rude.

Now if you want to discuss this politely and actually explain what the hell you're talking about for once instead of half assing single line complaints that are no more clear than your edits, I'd be happy to do that. If not, I'm happy to ban you for your repeated vandalism and move on.

Pawn (talkcontribs)

Your words "TOC is a non issue" doesn't mean anything really. I know what MediaWiki can do and can't do.

You made no suggestions about what to do with text, TOC or something else once again.

Pawn (talkcontribs)

You're complete MediaWiki noob and don't know how red links work.

I'm really sorry for anyone who will work with people like you.

Harakoni (talkcontribs)

The text goes under the TOC because that's where its meant to be and you have not provided any reason why it shouldn't be like that. That is my "suggestion".

Legitimate question - Is English your first language? Is there a language barrier? Because otherwise there is no excuse for this bullshit.

Zesty (talkcontribs)

Closing this topic. Harakoni has been more than patient with you, Pawn, and he isn't doing anything wrong. Disagreements about style can be handled in a civil manner.

There is no place for hostility on a video game wiki. Please take a step back and take a breather.