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'''Before posting''' an issue here, please consider the following:
 
'''Before posting''' an issue here, please consider the following:
 
* Post only issues that ''require'' administrative action, i.e. blocking vandals, protecting pages, restoring deleted pages etc.
 
* Post only issues that ''require'' administrative action, i.e. blocking vandals, protecting pages, restoring deleted pages etc.
* Do not post deletion requests here. Deletion requests should be made by adding '''{{tlx|delete|reason{{=}}reason for deletion request}}''' to the top of the target page, which will then automatically add the page to [[:Category:Marked for deletion]].
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* Do not post deletion requests here. Deletion requests should be made by adding '''{{tlx|delete|reason{{=}}reason for deletion request}}''' to the top of the target page, which will then automatically mark the page as a [[:Category:Page Deletion|candidate for deletion]].
 
* Do not post issues regarding content disputes. Try making a [[Project:Community portal|request for comment]] instead.
 
* Do not post issues regarding content disputes. Try making a [[Project:Community portal|request for comment]] instead.
 
* Mediation requests between users should only be made once a resolution could not be reached between users.
 
* Mediation requests between users should only be made once a resolution could not be reached between users.
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=== Templates ===
 
=== Templates ===
The idea, especially if we in the long-term move over to the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo Cargo database system], is that each ''thing'' or ''category'' has its own template, and of course its each page. That is partly why I am opposed to super-templates that try to deal with everything. Another reason is that it makes it difficult for regular users to fix and update data in the pages. Even worse if they try to fix a template. Therefore, I have now created the first draft of such a template, namely the [[:Template:Infobox pawn]] template.
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The idea, especially if we in the long-term move over to the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo Cargo database system], is that each ''thing'' or ''category'' has its own template, and of course its each page. That is partly why I am opposed to super-templates that try to deal with everything. Another reason is that it makes it difficult for regular users to fix and update data in the pages. Even worse if they try to fix a template. Therefore, I have now created the first draft of such a template, namely the [[:Template:Infobox animal]] template.
  
 
The main difficulty is likely going to be to make sure we have all the variables we need, and that they are sensibly defined. Unlike in SWM, where each such definition needs its own property page, this is done in the template in Cargo. If you hit Edit on that page, you see how it works in roughly the top half of the template. First the database table is defined. Then the storage of data (from pages using the template) is defined. Currently the latter half is a mess and needs a near-total rewrite, because I used a template I wrote on Pillars of Eternity. We have no CSS for the infoboxes or classes used yet, and ought to first come up with a design choice for what the infoboxes should look like. [https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Template:Infobox_bestiary This is] how this one happens to look on the Pillars of Eternity wiki, but we can of course change things a lot here, and not just in terms of colours.
 
The main difficulty is likely going to be to make sure we have all the variables we need, and that they are sensibly defined. Unlike in SWM, where each such definition needs its own property page, this is done in the template in Cargo. If you hit Edit on that page, you see how it works in roughly the top half of the template. First the database table is defined. Then the storage of data (from pages using the template) is defined. Currently the latter half is a mess and needs a near-total rewrite, because I used a template I wrote on Pillars of Eternity. We have no CSS for the infoboxes or classes used yet, and ought to first come up with a design choice for what the infoboxes should look like. [https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Template:Infobox_bestiary This is] how this one happens to look on the Pillars of Eternity wiki, but we can of course change things a lot here, and not just in terms of colours.
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=== An example infobox image ===
 
=== An example infobox image ===
 
Interestingly, after making some CSS changes, stuff actually showed up on a [[User:Pangaea/Cargo_test_page|test page]] I created earlier. It needs some adapting, but is the overall look of the thing something we could work with? What do you think? [https://i.imgur.com/Gt5FjTB.png Infobox draft]. [[User:Pangaea|Pangaea]] ([[User talk:Pangaea|talk]]) 00:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 
Interestingly, after making some CSS changes, stuff actually showed up on a [[User:Pangaea/Cargo_test_page|test page]] I created earlier. It needs some adapting, but is the overall look of the thing something we could work with? What do you think? [https://i.imgur.com/Gt5FjTB.png Infobox draft]. [[User:Pangaea|Pangaea]] ([[User talk:Pangaea|talk]]) 00:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 
== Obsoleted pages ==
 
There are quite a few [[:Category:Pages that are obsolete|obsoleted pages]] scattered around the wiki. Are these something we ought to keep, or would it be fine to delete them? Part of the reason I ask is that Cargo will store everything in an infobox (once they're all updated), so if we are to keep these pages then I must bake in some handling of it in templates. Otherwise these obsolete items and so forth will show up in queries, which we don't want. From the deletion log from way back when, it looks like some other outdated pages were deleted, but I'd like to hear from others what to do about them. Likewise there are probably a lot of pictures that can be deleted as well if we decide to clean it up and only keep the currently relevant pages for items, creatures etc that exist in the game as of 1.0. [[User:Pangaea|Pangaea]] ([[User talk:Pangaea|talk]]) 15:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 

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