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Short bow

Short bow

A simple short selfbow made from a single piece of wood.

Base Stats

Type
EquipmentWeapons
Tech Level
Neolithic
Weapon Class
Neolithic
Market Value
45 Silver
Mass
0.8 kg

Ranged Combat

Mode
Single-Shot
Damage
11 dmg (Arrow)
Armor penetration
16%
Warm-Up
81 ticks (1.35 secs)
Cooldown
99 ticks (1.65 secs)
Range
22.9 tile(s)
Accuracy
75% - 65% - 45% - 25%
Avg. accuracy
64.8%
Velocity
44 (m/s)
Burst Count
1 (per burst)
DPS
3.67 (2.38)
Stopping power
0.5

Melee Combat

Melee Attack 1
Limb
9 dmg (Blunt)
13% AP
2.0 seconds cooldown
Melee Attack 2 
Limb
9 dmg (Poke)
13% AP
2.0 seconds cooldown
Melee Average DPS
4.5
Melee Average AP
13%

Creation

Crafted At
Crafting spot / Fueled smithy / Electric smithy
Skill Required
Crafting 2
Work To Make
2,400 ticks (40 secs)
Resources to make
Wood 30
Technical
Has Quality
True
weaponTags
Neolithic, NeolithicRangedBasic
tradeTags
WeaponRanged


The short bow is a very light, single-shot ranged weapon in RimWorld which deals a moderate amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly shorter range and moderate accuracy.

Obtaining

Short bows can be crafted at a [[]], [[]] or [[]]. They require , Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work, and a [[]] skill of .

Alternatively, short bows can be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, tribal and outlander faction bases, and obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind Chance Average Quality Health
Archer 92.27% Poor 50-180%

You also start with two short bows in the Lost Tribe scenario.

Analysis

Short bows are one of the easiest ranged weapons to create, so are an important item for the Lost Tribe and Naked Brutality scenarios. A crafting spot can be created almost anywhere, instantly, and wood is typically not hard to find. Any ranged weapon at all allows you to safely hunt animals; even 0% manhunter animals will retaliate in melee combat, but not at range. Any weapon at all also gives a basic defense against hostile wildlife and raiders.

As they are so cheap, they aren't great as actual weapons. Short bows have the 3rd lowest DPS of all player-craftable ranged weapons in the game, ahead of only the pila and incendiary launcher. Other weaknesses include low accuracy and inability to stagger humans, something all other neolithic options can do. The short bow is best suited for close-quarters engagements due to its high close accuracy and slow projectile velocity.

Naturally, a short bow will be significantly overshadowed in terms of combat performance by even the most basic of firearms such as autopistols and revolvers. Two short bows are roughly equal to one of the aforementioned firearms. New Tribes also begin with the recurve bow researched, offering an immediate upgrade, assuming someone has a Crafting skill of 5 or more. Replacing the short bow with better ranged options should thus be your second priority, only after making sure everyone has a weapon of any kind.

Stats

Against an unarmored human, a short bow can kill with 4 hits to the torso, 3 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 3 hits; and cripple or destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 6 hits (~28.35 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

Overall, the short bow is best paired with a careful shooter until level 9, and with a trigger-happy shooter beyond that point.

Attack table

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    Neolithic Weapons
    Dam. AP Accuracy
    (Touch)
    Accuracy
    (Short)
    Accuracy
    (Medium)
    Accuracy
    (Long)
    DPS
    (Optimal)
    DPS
    (Touch)
    DPS
    (Short)
    DPS
    (Medium)
    DPS
    (Long)
    Market
    value
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    Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.

  • Short bow vs. comparable weapons

    This section goes over how well the short bow fares against comparable weapons (similar value, tech level or similar characteristics) in 1 vs. 1 combat.

    Methodology

    • All testing is semi-automated which allows for large sample sizes to be gathered per set of results with ease
    • All pawns have a skill level of 8 in shooting
    • No pawns have any traits that affect combat performance
    • All pawns are of 18 years of age and completely healthy
    • Pawns are divided by walls to prevent stray shots from skewing results in any way
    • Weather conditions are kept clear and no cover is used

    Results in the tables below are the percentages of battles that short bows either won or tied against the weapon listed in the first column of said tables, with a sample size of 2,000 battles per result. Higher percentages are better.

    Unarmored

    For the unarmored testing, all pawns wore normal quality plainleather pants and plainleather button-down shirts.

    Short bow vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Recurve bow 38.85% 31.25% 25.70% 22.75% - - -
    Pila 82.20% 77.60% 66.05% 64.50% - - -

    Flak armor

    For the flak armor testing, all pawns wore normal quality steel simple helmets, flak jackets, flak vests, plainleather button-down shirts and flak pants.

    Short bow vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Recurve bow 36.60% 31.75% 20.75% 22.80% - - -
    Pila 90.15% 84.80% 74.65% 72.60% - - -

    Marine armor

    For the marine armor testing, all pawns wore normal quality marine helmets, marine armor, plainleather button-down shirts and plainleather pants.

    Short bow vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Recurve bow 34.60% 25.50% 20.70% 18.85% - - -
    Pila 89.75% 83.45% 71.80% 70.85% - - -

    Graphs

    The graphs assume a normal quality short bow against an adult human that's out in the open in clear weather. For DPS, projectile speed has also been factored into the equation, with the weighting based on the base amount of attacks that it'll take to put the aforementioned target into pain shock.

    Short bow's accuracy with various shooters without any trait. Short bow's DPS with various shooters without any trait.

    Short bow's accuracy with various shooters with careful shooter. Short bow's DPS with various shooters with careful shooter.

    Short bow's accuracy with various shooters with trigger-happy. Short bow's DPS with various shooters with trigger-happy.

    Version history


    Greatbow

    Greatbow

    A powerful greatbow. Fires a heavy arrow long distances.

    Base Stats

    Type
    EquipmentWeapons
    Tech Level
    Neolithic
    Weapon Class
    Neolithic
    Market Value
    104 Silver
    Mass
    3 kg

    Ranged Combat

    Mode
    Single-Shot
    Damage
    17 dmg (Arrow)
    Armor penetration
    15%
    Warm-Up
    120 ticks (2 secs)
    Cooldown
    90 ticks (1.5 secs)
    Range
    29.9 tile(s)
    Accuracy
    65% - 85% - 75% - 50%
    Avg. accuracy
    75.4%
    Velocity
    49 (m/s)
    Burst Count
    1 (per burst)
    DPS
    4.86 (3.66)
    Stopping power
    1.5

    Melee Combat

    Melee Attack 1
    Limb
    9 dmg (Blunt)
    13% AP
    2.0 seconds cooldown
    Melee Attack 2 
    Limb
    9 dmg (Poke)
    13% AP
    2.0 seconds cooldown
    Melee Average DPS
    4.5
    Melee Average AP
    13%

    Creation

    Crafted At
    Crafting spot / Fueled smithy / Electric smithy
    Required Research
    Greatbow
    Skill Required
    Crafting 6
    Work To Make
    9,000 ticks (2.5 mins)
    Resources to make
    Wood 60
    Technical
    Has Quality
    True
    weaponTags
    Neolithic, NeolithicRangedHeavy, NeolithicRangedChief
    thingSetMakerTags
    RewardStandardQualitySuper
    tradeTags
    WeaponRanged


    The greatbow is a moderately heavy, single-shot ranged weapon which deals a slightly higher amount of damage per shot; slightly longer time between shots; slightly longer range and high overall accuracy.

    Acquisition

    Great bows can be manufactured at any smithy once the greatbow research has been completed; from and Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work. A crafting level of at least 6 is required.

    Great bows can also be purchased from neolithic war merchants and orbital combat suppliers, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

    Raider Kind Chance Average Quality Health
    Heavy Archer 42.22% Normal 50-180%
    Archer Chief 93.25% Normal 100%

    Analysis

    The greatbow is the most powerful pre-industrial ranged weapon. Roughly on par with weak firearms like autopistols and revolvers, it is rapidly outclassed by most other guns. Due to the research required, crafting greatbows usually not a great idea. However, a greatbow obtained from other means, such as a quest, event, or by trade, can be useful in the early game.

    As a weapon, the greatbow dominates all ranged weapons for its tech level. For a bow, it has great accuracy and range. While the AP is worse than even a short bow, the damage easily makes up for it. With the highest range before bolt-action rifles and a relatively short cooldown, the greatbow is ideal for both preventing, and escaping from, hunted animals going manhunter. It's worth noting that the greatbow has a longer warmup than cooldown, which is reversed for the other two bows. This synergizes well with Aiming Time reductions.

    • Compared to a recurve bow of the same quality, the greatbow has overall better damage and range. A recurve bow one or two quality levels above can have better DPS at the short-medium range though.
    • Compared to autopistols and revolvers, the greatbow is more accurate from a distance, and has higher max range. However, both handguns outdamage the greatbow up close.
    • The greatbow is actually very similar in role to the bolt-action rifle, just with worse stats. A bolt-action rifle has better DPS, range, long-range accuracy as a greatbow of the same quality.

    The main issue of this weapon is the research required - greatbows are a dead-end project, and greatbows themselves are quickly outclassed by guns that can be looted and crafted early. Therefore, actually doing the research is often a waste of time. Should you find or craft a particularly high quality greatbow, however, it might remain competitive in the early game. The main advantage of greatbows is their cost, not using any components or steel that could be otherwise spent on other options.

    Quality comparisons

    High quality greatbows can occasionally be obtained as a quest reward. Particularly high quality greatbows can be better than many types of guns.

    • A masterwork greatbow beats an excellent (and lower) bolt-action rifle at any range the bow can reach, though its AP and max range are still shorter.
    • Up close (12 tiles), a greatbow 1 quality level higher generally beats a bolt action, e.g. good greatbow > normal bolt-action. The one exception is that an excellent greatbow is still inferior to a good bolt action rifle.
    • At medium (25 tile) range and beyond, an excellent greatbow is outperformed by a poor bolt-action.

    Stats

    Against an unarmored human, a greatbow can kill with 3 hits to the torso, 2 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 4 hits (~19.5 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

    Attack table

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    Neolithic Weapons
    Dam. AP Accuracy
    (Touch)
    Accuracy
    (Short)
    Accuracy
    (Medium)
    Accuracy
    (Long)
    DPS
    (Optimal)
    DPS
    (Touch)
    DPS
    (Short)
    DPS
    (Medium)
    DPS
    (Long)
    Market
    value
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    Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.

  • Version history

    • 0.3.410 - Added
    • At some point between Beta 18 and 1.2 it was nerfed. Accuracy was decreased from Touch accuracy was changed from 93% to 65%, range was decreased from 32 to 30 and damage from 18 to 17. It was also increased in weight from 1.2 to 3.0.



    Pila

    Pila

    Pila are spears for throwing. They take a long time to throw, but one hit can do heavy damage. This weapon represents a bundle of pila and can be thrown over and over. The singular of pila is pilum.

    Base Stats

    Type
    EquipmentWeapons
    Tech Level
    Neolithic
    Weapon Class
    Neolithic
    Market Value
    109 Silver
    Mass
    4 kg

    Ranged Combat

    Mode
    Single-Shot
    Damage
    25 dmg (RangedStab)
    Armor penetration
    10%
    Warm-Up
    240 ticks (4 secs)
    Cooldown
    240 ticks (4 secs)
    Range
    18.9 tile(s)
    Accuracy
    50% - 71% - 50% - 32%
    Avg. accuracy
    60.4%
    Velocity
    26 (m/s)
    Burst Count
    1 (per burst)
    DPS
    3.13 (1.89)
    Stopping power
    2.5

    Melee Combat

    Melee Attack 1
    Shaft
    9 dmg (Blunt)
    13% AP
    2.0 seconds cooldown
    Melee Attack 2 
    Point
    9 dmg (Stab)
    13% AP
    2.0 seconds cooldown
    Melee Average DPS
    4.5
    Melee Average AP
    13%

    Creation

    Crafted At
    Fueled smithy / Electric smithy
    Required Research
    Smithing
    Skill Required
    Crafting 3
    Work To Make
    7,000 ticks (1.94 mins)
    Resources to make
    Wood 70
    Technical
    Has Quality
    True
    weaponTags
    Neolithic, NeolithicRangedHeavy
    tradeTags
    WeaponRanged


    Pila are slightly heavier, thrown ranged weapons which deal a high amount of damage per pilum thrown. They have a very long time between throws, and slightly shorter range and slightly lower overall accuracy.

    Note that pila, once equipped, can be thrown infinitely; they are not consumed by use.

    Acquisition

    Pila can be crafted at either a fueled or electric smithy once the [[research#|]] research project has been completed. They require , Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work, and a [[]] skill of .

    Alternatively, pila can be purchased from neolithic war merchants, orbital combat suppliers, tribal and outlander faction bases, or found on the following raiders kinds:

    Raider Kind Chance Average Quality Health
    Heavy Archer 50.71% Normal 100%

    Analysis

    Pila deal a great amount of damage per shot, matching the much more advanced sniper rifle. They also have a massive stopping power - able to stagger humans and anything smaller than 2.5 body size. However, pila have the slowest fire rate in the game, at least for conventional ranged weapons. They also have a terrible range, only outranging both shotguns and all grenades. And in terms of DPS, pila are very poor - even short bows are superior. Therefore, pila are best used as support and hunting weapons.

    Because of the immense damage per shot, pila are known to completely destroy body parts, which can maim or outright kill a pawn. And, as thrown weapons, pila have a tendency to strike internal body parts more often. A pila user in the back can fish for lucky hits and stagger enemies. The per-hit damage also makes them good for hunting, though problems can arise if the quarry turns manhunter. As a downside, pila are likely to dismember any enemies you might want to capture for yourself.

    But, overall, pila aren't very useful. They have a high research cost and terrible DPS. Pila shouldn't be used outside of the Lost Tribe scenario, which begins with one. Even then, bows deal more damage, which is generally more effective. For colonies with guns, the pump shotgun is another close range / high stopping power option.

    Stats

    Against an unarmored human, a pilum can kill with 2 hits to the torso, 1-2 hits to the head, or 1 hit to the neck or brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 1-2 hits; and destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 3 hits (~36 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

    Pila are best paired with careful shooters up to level 6, then with trigger-happy shooters beyond that point.

    Attack table

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    Neolithic Weapons
    Dam. AP Accuracy
    (Touch)
    Accuracy
    (Short)
    Accuracy
    (Medium)
    Accuracy
    (Long)
    DPS
    (Optimal)
    DPS
    (Touch)
    DPS
    (Short)
    DPS
    (Medium)
    DPS
    (Long)
    Market
    value
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    Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.

  • Pila vs. comparable weapons

    This section goes over how well pila fares against comparable weapons (similar value, tech level or similar characteristics) in 1 vs. 1 combat.

    Methodology

    • All testing is semi-automated which allows for large sample sizes to be gathered per set of results with ease
    • All pawns have a skill level of 8 in shooting
    • No pawns have any traits that affect combat performance
    • All pawns are of 18 years of age and completely healthy
    • Pawns are divided by walls to prevent stray shots from skewing results in any way
    • Weather conditions are kept clear and no cover is used

    Results in the tables below are the percentages of battles that pila either won or tied against the weapon listed in the first column of said tables, with a sample size of 2,000 battles per result. Higher percentages are better.

    Unarmored

    For the unarmored testing, all pawns wore normal quality plainleather pants and plainleather button-down shirts.

    Pila vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Short bow 17.80% 22.40% 33.95% 35.50% - - -
    Pump shotgun 6.00% 6.75% 10.75% - - - -

    Flak armor

    For the flak armor testing, all pawns wore normal quality steel simple helmets, flak jackets, flak vests, plainleather button-down shirts and flak pants.

    Pila vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Short bow 9.85% 15.20% 25.35% 27.40% - - -
    Pump shotgun 2.50% 2.65% 3.95% - - - -

    Marine armor

    For the marine armor testing, all pawns wore normal quality marine helmets, marine armor, plainleather button-down shirts and plainleather pants.

    Pila vs. 3 7 12 18 25 32 40
    Short bow 10.25% 16.55% 28.20% 29.15% - - -
    Pump shotgun 2.15% 2.55% 2.85% - - - -

    Graphs

    The graphs assume normal quality pila against an adult human that's out in the open in clear weather. For DPS, projectile speed has also been factored into the equation, with the weighting based on the base amount of attacks that it'll take to put the aforementioned target into pain shock.

    Pila's accuracy with various shooters without any trait. Pila's DPS with various shooters without any trait.

    Pila's accuracy with various shooters with careful shooter. Pila's DPS with various shooters with careful shooter.

    Pila's accuracy with various shooters with trigger-happy. Pila's DPS with various shooters with trigger-happy.

    Version history

    • 0.4.460 - Damage nerfed from 45 to 30

    Club

    Club

    A shaped stick, heavy at one end, for bashing enemies to death. This weapon is so old it's part of human biology. Evolutionary biologists say that a major reason humans can tilt our wrists side-to-side (instead of just forward-and-back like other primates) is to be able to better swing a club.

    Base Stats

    Type
    EquipmentWeapons
    Tech Level
    Neolithic
    Weapon Class
    Neolithic
    Mass
    2 kg

    Melee Combat

    Mode
    Melee
    Melee Attack 1
    Handle
    9 dmg (Poke)
    13% AP
    2 seconds cooldown
    Melee Attack 2 
    Head
    14 dmg (Blunt)
    21% AP
    2 seconds cooldown
    Melee Average DPS
    6.27
    Melee Average AP
    19%

    Creation

    Crafted At
    Crafting spot / Fueled smithy / Electric smithy
    Work To Make
    1,200 ticks (20 secs)
    Stuff Tags
    Metallic, Woody, Stony
    Resources to make
    Stuff 40
    Technical
    Has Quality
    False
    weaponTags
    NeolithicMeleeBasic


    The club is a neolithic melee weapon that does a moderate amount of blunt damage and has a moderate-long cooldown. As a blunt weapon, it doesn't cause bleeding (unless a body part gets destroyed), and generally do more damage against armor when compared to sharp weapons.

    Acquisition

    Clubs can also be crafted at a crafting spot, fueled smithy, or electric smithy without any research required; with and Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work. They can also be purchased from any combat supplier or war merchant, or obtained from melee raiders drops.

    Analysis

    Clubs are generated without a quality level - in essence, all clubs are "normal." This makes them worth considering if you have no competent crafters yet. With underwhelming damage output, clubs only make sense as melee options in the early game; once you have craftsmen capable of reliably producing better than normal quality weapons, there is little reason to ever build a club again.

    Although uranium clubs are effective weapons for use against armored foes, maces are clearly superior weapons, especially when high quality, for only 10 more material.

    Attack table

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    Dam. AP Accuracy
    (Touch)
    Accuracy
    (Short)
    Accuracy
    (Medium)
    Accuracy
    (Long)
    DPS
    (Optimal)
    DPS
    (Touch)
    DPS
    (Short)
    DPS
    (Medium)
    DPS
    (Long)
    Market
    value
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    Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.

  • Styles

    Ideoligions allow the selection of styles which then change the texture of the certain items and buildings when constructed by the colony. These style variants can be crafted if the colony has the selected style, or can be looted from raiders from factions with the requisite style.

    Version history

    • 0.7.581 - Added
    • Beta 18 - clubs no longer generate with a quality value.
    • 1.1 - Wooden club is burnable now and the metallic variants are smeltable

    Spear

    Spear

    A polearm tipped with a sharp point for stabbing opponents.

    Base Stats

    Type
    EquipmentWeapons
    Tech Level
    Neolithic
    Weapon Class
    Neolithic
    Mass
    2 kg

    Melee Combat

    Mode
    Melee
    Melee Attack 1
    Shaft
    13 dmg (Blunt)
    20% AP
    2.6 seconds cooldown
    Melee Attack 2 
    Shaft
    13 dmg (Poke)
    20% AP
    2.6 seconds cooldown
    Melee Attack 3 
    Point
    23 dmg (Stab)
    50% AP
    2.6 seconds cooldown
    Melee Average DPS
    7.35
    Melee Average AP
    38%

    Creation

    Crafted At
    Fueled smithy / Electric smithy
    Required Research
    Long blades
    Skill Required
    Crafting 4
    Work To Make
    12,000 ticks (3.33 mins)
    Stuff Tags
    Metallic, Woody
    Resources to make
    Stuff 75
    Technical
    Has Quality
    True
    weaponTags
    NeolithicMeleeAdvanced, MedievalMeleeAdvanced


    The spear is a melee weapon that does a large amount of sharp damage with high AP.

    Acquisition

    Spears can be crafted at any smithy once the Long Blades research has been completed, from and Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work.

    Spears can be purchased from any combat supplier or war merchant, or obtained from several kinds of melee raiders.

    Metallic spears can be smelted for scrap at an electric smelter. They yield exactly one quarter (25%) of the stuff required to craft the weapon, regardless of item quality or HP.

    Analysis

    The spear is a sharp weapon with a very similar damage output to the longsword, despite the in-game tooltips stating otherwise. This is because the game does not account for the melee verb selection mechanic introduced in 1.1.

    Spears and/or longswords are the best sharp melee weapons that colonists can craft. They compete with maces and warhammersContent added by the Royalty DLC for best overall craftable weapon. In-depth comparison can be seen in the below section.

    Comparisons

    Comparison to longswords

    Spears have very slightly less DPS. The longsword is +1% stronger in raw DPS than the spear, after considering melee verb selection. In exchange, the spear has noticeably more AP (+14%) and costs Stuff 25 materials less. This makes the spear numerically superior, but that is not the full story.

    Longswords can either Cut or Stab, while spears can only Stab. Cut damage has a chance to "cleave" through body parts. This increases damage per swing by 140%, but its damage is split between body parts. The spear can only stab: its damage is weaker, but always concentrated on one body part. The cleave will cause pain shock faster, due to increased damage. Generally, pain shock is much more likely than body part destruction.

    If a cut happens to reduce a body part to 0 HP, it is more likely to be destroyed. But since cleaving will spread out damage in the first place, Cut remains less likely to destroy larger limbs (like the arms and legs). Also, stabs are more likely to hit internal organs. However, both of these factors tend to be less important than the aforementioned cleaving.

    Overall, which option is better depends on expected targets:

    • At normal to excellent qualities, longswords are often better (definitely more consistent) for fighting against unarmored humans, lightly armored humans, and light mechs like scythers and lancers. This is due to the increased damage from cleaving. Spears would be better for fighting against armored enemies, like centipedes, due to the higher AP.
    • A masterwork plasteel spear / sword is able to one-shot body parts like head and neck, though not the torso. The masterwork spear will more consistently one-shot human enemies, as the damage won't be spread out. Empirical testing suggests that the longsword remains better against unarmored targets.[More testing needed] Spears still have more AP, so are better against armored enemies.

    It's worth noting that the spear faces competition with the mace as a cheaper, anti-armor weapon.

    Comparison to maces

    The spear is actually closer to the mace in their niche, as both are better than the longsword against armor. Maces are cheaper, is best used with uranium rather than plasteel, and unlocked in Smithing rather than Long Blades. Before armor, spears deal +12% more damage than a mace of equal quality. Maces are good against armor, despite having lower AP, since most enemies have practically no Blunt armor.

    At normal quality, a plasteel spear deals more damage than a uranium mace until fighting enemies with 68% Sharp armor. This is before considering quality; at higher quality, the spear only gets better. For example, if both weapons are excellent, then the mace only starts to become better at 78% armor. For reference, centipedes have 72% armor. So while a mace would be stronger against flak vests (when hitting the vest) and power armor, spears are noticeably better against unarmed foes, and roughly equal against armor up to centipedes'. Enemies with power armor aren't very common.

    This assumes plasteel vs. uranium. If both weapons are made out of steel, then the mace becomes relatively better against centipedes and plate armor and the like. Also remember that maces are cheaper, and that uranium is generally used less than plasteel.

    Notes:

    • Once you reach masterwork quality, the plasteel spear's AP gets very high. No enemy, short of the empire's absolute best soldiersContent added by the Royalty DLC, has enough armor to justify using the mace. The spear is roughly equal against most power armor (a few % DPS worse), but can ignore all of a centipede's armor for the full 112%-of-mace damage.
    • This comparison does not account for the strong melee damage gene.Content added by the Biotech DLC With strong melee damage, the mace comes out ahead due to overkill mechanics (see below).

    With strong melee gene

    With the strong melee damage gene,Content added by the Biotech DLC the comparisons change.

    1. High quality longswords can now one-shot the torso. Legendary plasteel swords can one-shot the torso even in a cleave attack, assuming it split between 2 parts.
    2. When an excellent plasteel longsword (or better) does a cleave attack, its damage so high that it causes pain shock in a single swing.
    3. Meanwhile, the spear can only ever hit a single body part. If a 62 damage spear hits a 25 damage arm, the arm is destroyed and 37 damage (over 60% of the attack) is wasted. If a sword cleaves, much less damage is wasted. Blunt weapons like maces and warhammersContent added by the Royalty DLC will hit the parent part if it would overkill (e.g. destroying the arm will damage the shoulder for remaining HP).
    4. Strong melee damage also boosts the AP of longswords. But due to the quirks of the game, it does not boost the AP of spears. Longsword AP becomes nearly identical to the spear.

    This results in high quality swords with the damage gene being virtually better against all targets, short of tough pawns. Against humanoids, a sword can either (1-shot torso/head or cleave to pain shock), while a spear can only (1-shot torso/head). Against mechanoids, the cleave damage results in the sword coming out ahead regardless.

    The masterwork steel longsword given at the start of the The Sanguophage scenario reaches both relevant thresholds. With your sanguophage, it can one-shot through a torso stab and one-shot through cleaving pain. This longsword is actually stronger per-hit than an excellent plasteel longsword, and likely better than any weapon you'll be seeing for a while.

    Attack table

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    Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.

  • Version history

    • 0.7.581 - Added
    • 1.1.2610 - Implementation of new melee verb system. Previously, spears were more likely to use their shaft rather than their point. This now results in spears having higher DPS than what the game's infobox states.