Difference between revisions of "Industrial Weapons"

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Pistol might refer to:

Version history

0.18.1722 - The pistol was split into revolver and autopistol. Although the autopistol uses the old pistol's sprite, the revolver is functionally closer to the old pistol.

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The machine pistol is a slightly lighter, multi-shot firearm in RimWorld which fires 3-shot bursts of rounds which deal a low amount of damage each; a slightly shorter delay between each shot; a very short time between bursts; slightly shorter range and slightly higher overall accuracy.

Acquisition

Machine pistols can be crafted at a [[]] once the [[Research#|]] research project has been completed. They require , Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work, and a [[]] skill of .

They can also be purchased from outlander and orbital combat suppliers, outlander settlements, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Scavenger Gunner	25.20%	Normal	40-110%
Pirate Gunner	22.26%	Normal	70-230%
Villager	5.32%	Poor	20-200%
Town Guard	17.63%	Normal	60-200%
Mercenary Gunner	10.38%	Normal	70-320%
Ancient Soldier	8.61%	Normal	100%

Analysis

With high close-up accuracy and excellent rate of fire, the machine pistol is great for low-skill shooters, and has a respectable overall damage output. It easily outclasses the autopistol and goes toe-to-toe with the pump shotgun. It is cheap to manufacture, and commonly carried by earlygame raiders. However, almost every ranged weapon outranges the machine pistol, and armor penetration is unsuprisingly low.

The machine pistol is best suited as a close-quarters engagement weapon, also being good hit-and-run tactics due to its very short warmup/cooldown cycle. It's ill-advised to use the machine pistol as a hunting weapon since it'll easily send animals into a manhunting rage.

The low per-shot damage also makes it slightly worse for killing than raw DPS would suggest. As a result of this, survivors will usualy have many bleeding gunshot wounds to tend to. Therefore, it's advisable to use at least herbal medicine to be able to patch up multiple wounds per tend, unless you're confident that your doctors can patch each individual wound quickly enough.

As an earlygame weapon, machine pistols will be outclassed as you advance through the game. Weapons that typically supplant them include the heavy SMG, for general skill-friendly combat, and the chain shotgun, which specializes in close combat.

Stats

Against an unarmored human, a machine pistol can kill with 7 hits to the torso, 5 hits to the head or 4 hits to the neck; cripple or destroy limbs in 5 hits; and cripple or destroy eyes and digits with 2 hits. A single hit to the brain will cause debilitating brain damage, but typically won't kill unless the victim's consciousness hits 0%. It'll generally take around 11 hits (~8.67 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

Overall, the machine pistol is best paired with a careful shooter up to level 12, then with a trigger-happy shooter beyond that point.

Attack table

Industrial Weapons (Error: Page has no Property:Image) Industrial Weapons	Dam.	AP	Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
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^{Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.}

Machine pistol vs. comparable weapons

This section goes over how well the machine pistol fares against comparable weapons (similar value, tech level or similar characteristics) in 1 vs. 1 combat.

Methodology

All testing is semi-automated which allows for large sample sizes to be gathered per set of results with ease
All pawns have skill levels of 14 in ranged and melee
No pawns have any traits that affect combat performance
All pawns are of at least 18 years of age and completely healthy
Pawns are divided by walls to prevent stray shots from skewing results in any way
Weather is always kept clear
No cover is used for either team

Results in the tables below are the percentages of battles that machine pistols either won or tied against the weapon listed in the first column of said tables, with a sample size of 2,000 battles per result. Higher percentages are better.

Unarmored

For the unarmored testing, all pawns wore normal quality plainleather pants, plainleather button-down shirts, plainleather dusters and plainleather cowboy hats.

Other Weapon	3	7	12	18	25	32	40
Heavy SMG	37.43%	38.81%	36.61%	38.85%	-	-	-
Pump Shotgun	76.44%	66.34%	51.12%	-	-	-	-
Autopistol	80.66%	74.18%	66.93%	63.80%	-	-	-

Armored

For the armored testing, all pawns wore normal quality flak pants, flak vests, plainleather button-down shirts, flak jackets and steel simple helmets.

Other Weapon	3	7	12	18	25	32	40
Heavy SMG	35.69%	34.13%	33.68%	35.79%	-	-	-
Pump Shotgun	77.37%	69.13%	51.76%	-	-	-	-
Autopistol	81.49%	75.64%	66.35%	62.92%	-	-	-

Version history

~2015 - Renamed from Uzi to PDW and texture updated
0.15.1279 - Renamed PDW to Machine Pistol.
Beta 19 - Texture replaced with one that had previously been used by the Heavy SMG.
Beta 19/1.0 - Beta 19/1.0 - All melee attack damages increased 8 -> 9, cooldown increased from 1.6s -> 2s.
1.0 - Received an accuracy buff in close ranged combat.

Original Uzi sprite
Original PDW sprite. Ironically, looks more like the real Uzi than the Uzi sprite

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

The heavy SMG is a moderately heavy, multi-shot ranged weapon that fires 3-shot bursts of rounds which deal a moderate amount of damage each; a moderate delay between each shot; a moderate time between bursts; slightly shorter range and moderate overall accuracy. Recommended for low skill shooters.

Acquisition

Heavy SMGs can be crafted at a machining table once the Gas Operation research has been completed; from and Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work. A crafting skill of at least 5 is required.

They are also commonly carried by Outlanders and Pirates and sold by traders or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Town Guard	6.09%	Normal	60-200%
Mercenary Gunner	14.62%	Normal	70-320%
Ancient Soldier	11.40%	Normal	100%

Analysis

The heavy SMG is a flexible, but close-quarters focused offensive weapon. Its accuracy makes it very friendly towards low Shooting skill users.

Specifically, the heavy SMG combines good low-range accuracy, decent rate of fire, and high per-shot damage to make an overall effective weapon for any skill. At said ranges, it will outdamage the machine pistol, assault rifle, and even the charge rifle (for up to 10 cells). It's worse than the chain shotgun at close-quarters fights, but has a greater max range, making it more effective for general firefights and flexible overall.

Range, though not as short as other weapons in its class, still leaves a little to be desired. Similarly to the machine pistol, the heavy SMG's stopping power isn't high enough to stagger humans, only small animals like tortoises and boomrats.

Stats

Against an unarmored human, a heavy SMG can kill with 4 hits to the torso, 3 hits to the head, 2 hits to the neck or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 3 hits; and cripple or destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 6 hits (~7.08 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

The heavy SMG is best paired with a careful shooter up to level 13, then with a trigger-happy shooter beyond that point.

Comparison to assault rifles

Heavy SMGs and assault rifles are the preferred weapons when it comes to "general" combat. The main differences are that the heavy SMG has a higher peak DPS, is cheaper and has better DPS at short range, while the assault rifle both has a longer range and has a better DPS at medium-long range.

Specifically, the heavy SMG is better until 13 tiles, regardless of Shooting skill. The assault rifle is better past 13 tiles, regardless of Shooting skill. This is true for the vast majority of reasonable scenarios.^[1] The reason the heavy SMG is "skill-friendly" is that a low-skill shooter will be next-to-useless when firing from far away, no matter how accurate their gun is. An unmodified, skill 0 pawn has a 5% chance to hit from 25 tiles, which is then multiplied by x35% for a normal quality HSMG or x65% for normal AR (at this range).

The assault rifle has a range 8 tiles longer. This allows the assault rifle to comfortably outrange enemies like tribals, termites, and centipedes. The assault rifle dominates for kiting tactics, or if you're repelling breachers from a distance, or in a firefight when both parties are attacking from max range.

Therefore, whenever heavy SMGs or ARs are better will depend on what you are looking for:

In a killbox, both weapons perform roughly the same, as you can change the length of the killbox to compensate for your weapon of choice. In a pure killbox scenario, Heavy SMGs are often the preferred weapon, as the player can control the engagement distance to reliably benefit from the higher peak DPS of the heavy SMG. They are also significantly cheaper and easier to research, meaning they can come online earlier. (When using an SMG killbox, give yourself a bit more than 13 tiles of range.)
Outside of a killbox, but in a defensive emplacement, the superiority depends on shooting accuracy.
- Assault rifles are better for higher skill shooters. They are a lot better at medium-long range, so are a lot better in a firefight that begins at the long ranges or that occurs over a variety of ranges. Note that only skilled shooters are competent at shooting at this range however.
- Heavy SMGs are better for low-skill shooters. HSMGs are better against melee attackers, which shooters of any skill can help with. They are also better against sudden drop pod raids and infestations, due to the close-ranged nature of both fights.
- Note that the chain shotgun is the ultimate short-range weapon, for both low- and high-skill shooters. However, the heavy SMG allows low-skill users to at least try to fire at long range, providing some help, and eventually training up the Shooting skill.
If relying on offensive or otherwise mobile tactics, the assault rifle is a clear winner regardless of skill due to its range and accuracy at longer ranges.

Notes:

¹ When fighting larger targets, like centipedes, it is possible to cap at 100% accuracy with assault rifles. This requires a high quality weapon and an great shooter. As further shooting bonuses (masterwork/legendary weapons, bionic eyes, luciferium, shooting specialist, etc.) would boost the heavy SMG but not the assault rifle, this would make the SMG better than the AR from a longer distance. However, assault rifles still have a superior max range.

For human targets, reaching the accuracy cap should be impossible unless the Combat in Darkness precept is used in darkness.

Attack table

Industrial Weapons (Error: Page has no Property:Image) Industrial Weapons	Dam.	AP	Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
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^{Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.}

Version history

0.9.722 - Added.
Beta 19 or prior - Sprite updated, old sprite used on machine pistol
Beta 19/1.0 - All melee attack damages increased 8 -> 9, cooldown increased from 1.6s -> 2s.

Original Heavy SMG sprite, now used on the Machine pistol

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

Survival Rifle

Assault Rifle

Sniper Rifle

The LMG is a heavy, multi-shot firearm which fires 6-shot bursts of rounds which deal a moderate amount of damage each; a slightly shorter delay between each shot; a slightly longer time between bursts; moderate range and low overall accuracy.

Acquisition

LMGs can be crafted at a machining table once the gas operation research has been completed; from and Expression error: Unexpected < operator. of work. A crafting skill of at least 6 is required.

LMGs can also be purchased from outlander and orbital combat suppliers, outlander settlements, or obtained from the following raider kinds:

Raider Kind	Chance	Average Quality	Health
Mercenary Gunner	11.32%	Normal	70-320%
Elite Mercenary	46.53%	Normal	100%
Ancient Soldier	10.56%	Normal	100%

Analysis

The LMG is an entry crowd-control weapon. It has a relatively long 6-shot burst, and high raw DPS, but this DPS is reduced heavily by poor accuracy. Single-shot damage is decent, but below average, worse than the heavy SMG until past short (12 tile) range. Range is good for a multi-shot firearm, and the LMG's stopping power is also high enough to stagger humans, lancers and scythers. The LMG is the most powerful overall weapon that is capable of staggering humans.

Like the minigun, LMGs are good against crowds, as any missed shots can hit other pawns in the area. Single-target damage improves against larger targets like centipedes, which are easier to hit, though the LMG loses its staggering advantage. The LMG is the 2nd heaviest weapon, though unlike the minigun, it does not slow the user down.

Overall, the LMG is a dedicated support and crowd-control weapon. It can be good for low skill shooters, as missed shots can hit other enemies no matter their accuracy. However, its niche is relatively small.

Against lone or separated targets, it suffers due to low accuracy and sluggish warmup. For the same reasons, it is a poor weapon inside a killbox.
In short range, it faces competition from the chain shotgun, which has enough stopping power to stagger humans, decent accuracy, a 3-shot burst, and amazing DPS.
For longer ranged combat, players often prefer the assault rifle and heavy SMG. Both weapons perform much better against separated targets, while remaining competitive against large crowds.

The AR is better than the LMG for long range combat. Meanwhile, the SMG is better for damage at close ranges. Damage is a major benefit of its own - it can even slow enemies through pain. Their superior accuracy and warmup time are helpful in a variety of siuations.

The LMG could see use as support for both long- and short- range combat at the same time, especially when fighting crowds of melee fighters. But this should be weighed against the benefits of the other weapons mentioned here, and the drawbacks of a longer warmup/cooldown cycle.

Stats

Against an unarmored human, an LMG can kill with 4 hits to the torso, 3 hits to the head or neck, or 1 hit to the brain; cripple or destroy limbs in 3 hits; and cripple or destroy eyes and digits with a single hit. It'll generally take around 6 hits (~10.4 seconds average) to incapacitate that human from pain shock.

The LMG is best paired with a careful shooter up to level 12, then with a trigger-happy shooter beyond that point.

Attack table

Industrial Weapons (Error: Page has no Property:Image) Industrial Weapons	Dam.	AP	Accuracy (Touch)	Accuracy (Short)	Accuracy (Medium)	Accuracy (Long)	DPS (Optimal)	DPS (Touch)	DPS (Short)	DPS (Medium)	DPS (Long)	Market value
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^{Values shown in Red indicate the weapon is out of range at the reference point for this range band. The value is provided due to the interpolated nature of accuracy between range points.}

Version history

0.3.410 - Can now spawn on pawns
Alpha ? - Name changed from L-15 LMG

Original L-15 LMG sprite

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

Frag Grenades

Molotov Cocktails

EMP Grenade

Improvised Turret Gun

Weapons

Melee | Neolithic: Breach axe • Club • Ikwa • Knife (Jade) • Spear

Medieval: Gladius • Longsword • Mace • Axe • Warhammer

Ultra: Eltex staff • Monosword (Persona) • Plasmasword (Persona) • Zeushammer (Persona)

Improvised: Beer • Elephant tusk • Thrumbo horn • Wood

Ranged | Neolithic: Greatbow • Pila • Recurve bow • Short bow • Flamebow

Industrial: Assault rifle • Autopistol • Bolt-action rifle • Chain shotgun • Heavy SMG • Launcher (EMP, Incendiary, Smoke, Toxbomb ) • LMG • Machine pistol • Minigun • Pump shotgun • Revolver • Sniper rifle

Spacer: Charge lance • Charge rifle

Consumables: Doomsday rocket launcher • Triple rocket launcher

Throwables: EMP grenades • Frag grenades • Molotov cocktails • Tox grenades

Mechanoid: Heavy charge blaster • Inferno cannon • Needle gun • Thump cannon • Beam graser • Charge blaster turret • Hellsphere cannon • Mini-flameblaster • Mini-shotgun • Slugthrower • Spiner • Toxic needle gun

Structures: Autocannon • Mini-turret gun • Mortar (Weapon) • Uranium slug cannon • Auto-mortar • Inferno cannon (Turret) • Light charge blaster • Mini-slugger • Tactical turret gun

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Difference between revisions of "Industrial Weapons"

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Analysis

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Machine pistol vs. comparable weapons

Methodology

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Analysis

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Comparison to assault rifles

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